September 15, 2012
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Obama
The Obama administration is saying that all the unrest in the middle east is not against Americans, it’s against one video.
Do you believe what Obama is declaring?
Right now there are 21 countries that are having violent uprising agaisnt America. How far and how long do you think this is going to go?
Comments (56)
Hopefully not much further!
Was that the American flag they were all burning or was I only watching video?
@rocketopossum - Agreed
@PrisonerxOfxLove - Good point
It’ll go on until we get some marines in there to kick butt or bombers dropping surprises on the “protesters.”
the US has become the scapegoat for all their pent up frustrations with their own way of life. it is just a reason for a certain extreme group(s) to cause violence and whatbetter people than the US to show hate towards as we have the freedoms they dont have and they wish they had. there is no way to reason with radicals with pent up hate. if they were true believers in their own religion, they would not be doing any of this and would realize that the video was the vision of one person and not of all of the US.
If I could recommend what buddy71 said a million times I would/ We are not the caretakers of extremist views. The people that made the film are as despicable as the extremist that killed and started the violence. Starting another war or violence upon violence is never the answer. Diplomacy and tracking down the bad guys is the answer. We got Ben Laden and just recently the second in command. We will track their ugly butts to the ends of the earth but it takes time not bombs and loss of innocent lives to do it.
I think the answer is a bit more complicated: for many of those folks, they see no difference between the one video and “America” as a whole. They are conflating the two, just as many Americans conflate Muslim terrorists with “Muslims” as a whole.
@buddy71 - I think your comment “there’s no way to reason with radicals” is spot on. Well said.
@whyzat - yes
@buddy71 - I think they are being true to their religion. The Koran teaches death to all infidels.
@slinky - Agreed. We didn’t start this war it was started against us. This administration is being soft against a war that is being fought against America.
@Randy7777 - it also teaches love and compassion and tolerance and there are times that the prophet was treated poorly yet he did not retaliate.
@christao408 - The clear point is the terrorists waging war on America and Israel. The call to “rise up” came on 9/11. The video was used as a trigger point. I’m sure this wasn’t the only video out there saying things against Islam.
@buddy71 - Well hopefully the muslem nations will shout that message of love and compassion and tolerance. I haven’t heard that coming from the muslem leaders.
21 countries!! If all those countries get together, wouldn’t it be another World War III
What does any of this have to do with Obama?
Obama spoke to the Egyptian President yesterday after which the Egyptian President and the Muslim Brotherhood called for an end to the protests in Egypt. today there are no protests in Egypt.
something to think about is we have freedom of speech in this country. in many other countries governments control and censor the press. in those countries people are used to videos such as the one in question to be censored by the government. when they see the U.S. government not censor such a video they presume the U.S. government supports the content of the video.
something else to consider is it is believed the demonstrations were incited by Al Qaeda cells and done so intentionally on 9/11. Al Qaeda used propaganda that the video was officially backed by the U.S. government and many swallowed the propaganda but is that so different than what we witness in the U.S. how many people in the U.S. believe people like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? how many believe the President is a Muslim and wasn’t born in this country? how many believed Michelle Bachmann and others and the FOX talking heads that Obamacare was a plan to pull the plug on grandma or that democrats are socialists and communists? how many people believed Paul Ryan when he claimed President Obama promised to keep a GM plant in Ryan’s district open and didn’t keep his promise? plant workers who were there said Obama never made that promise. Obama said if the government helps the plant could stay open. the government didn’t help and it closed while Bush was in the White House. this is how it all happens. people who don’t have the time or the desire to find out the facts turn on their televisions, hear someone make a claim and assume it to be true.
Perhaps if people would take responsibility for their free speech and realize the effects of it, this wouldn’t have happened! (I watched a few scenes in that movie and it was the most vile and disgusting thing I’ve watched.)
@Randy7777 - obviously, you don’t know any Muslims
We are fighting a VIDEO ? If it’s VHS, does anyone have any scissors ? I can think of a quick solution right there.
Sounds like a bully made it. Do we HAVE to watch the video ? No ? Return to sender without watching.
Both besides are being incredibly short-sided. It’s exhausting just listening to these reports and the comments.
@dw817 - Good Point
@hesacontradiction - I have friends that are Muslim. My point was that I haven’t heard any Muslim leaders being compassionate in this issue.
@hesacontradiction - The video has been out since June. Islam leaders called for its people to rise up on 9/11. Obama administration made the video the focus point for political reasons. It looks like a well thought out plan on the part of this administration.
@TheSutraDude - If you watch ABC, NBC or CBS you wouldn’t know much is going on at all. Those networks are trying hard to get Obama elected.
Maybe you should broaden your viewing: CAIRO, Sept 15 (Reuters) – Clashes near the U.S. Embassy in central Cairo between police and Egyptians incensed over a film denigrating the Prophet Mohammad entered their fourth day early on Saturday, leaving one protester dead and dozens more injured.
@SerenaDante - Obama is spinning it to be the video verses a war against America. It is simular to pre WW2 when European leaders wanted to act like Hitler was not the monster he really was.
@angys_coco - Scary
@Randy7777 - oh yes i did hear about that and i pull from many sources including Reuters thank you. in fact during the Spring/Summer of 2001 i read a Reuters report while having lunch at work that Muslim extremists were planning to attack the U.S. using commercial planes as missiles. the story mentioned there was increasing chatter picked up by the CIA about this threat.
and i generally don’t get my news from ABC, NBC or CBS other than special reports that might be more extensive than how they normally report.
@Randy7777 - It is scary! Because each day I keep hearing that there are protest in another country etc. That would scare me.
@TheSutraDude - Seems like Reuters is a good news source. Have a great day.
@Randy7777 - it is. i worked for the U.N Radio News department during the early 80s. one of my jobs was to fetch the Reuters news that came across the wire. back then it was literally a ticker tape. i would read through it and cut from the tape any story that seemed newsworthy for U.N. Radio then bring those stories to the senior editor. the one story i remember breaking was a possible epidemic that so far was not responding to treatment. it was the first international report of the AIDS virus. little did i know at the time what it was to become.
you have a great day too.
@TheSutraDude - That sounds like you had a really interesting job. Early 80′s & AIDS virus – that was early on. I don’t remember hearing about AIDS until when I was getting out of the NAVY in 87. A guy was being discharged because he had the AIDS virus.
@Randy7777 - it was an interesting job. wow re how you first heard about AIDS. sorry to hear that about the guy.
i also meant to say when i woke up the second time today i heard about the protester killed but i assumed it happened yesterday. it was 2 in the afternoon here and they were reporting and showing images of the streets being quiet at that point. i wasn’t thinking of the time difference and all that.
thank you for you service in the Navy.
@TheSutraDude - Thanks
You are of the same mind as the Rioting Muslims…aka…Sam Baslie
@SerenaDante - Good question…
@tendollar4ways - How is that?
@Randy7777 - @hesacontradiction -
http://www.ibnpercy.com/khutbahs-friday-sermons-on-the-protests-in-the-muslim-world/
http://www.ibnpercy.com/scholars-respond-to-the-libyanegyptian-extremists-attack-on-us-embassies/
I get my news from overseas, where they are telling the truth or at least more of it. And I also notice the news there would like to impeach O, which goes along with my family from London & Germany are saying.
Here’s
a 2012 quote:I’m
going to frustrate all of you, infinitely, by telling you that now that we have
an open FBI investigation on the death of these four Americans, we are not
going to be in a position to talk at all about what the U.S. government may or
may not be learning about how any of this happened — not who they were, not how
it happened, not what happened to Ambassador Stevens, not any of it — until the
Justice Department is ready to talk about the investigation that it’s got,”
State Department spokeswoman Victorian Nuland said Friday. And
now a quote from 1938 by British PM Neville Chamberlain:My good friends,
this is the second time there has come back from Germany to Downing Street
peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the
bottom of our hearts. Now I recommend you go home, and sleep quietly in your
beds.Is history
repeating itself? Are we turning a blind eye to what could possibly become WWIII?
“The Obama administration is saying…” Where is your link? Did you forget the link? We don’t know what you are paraphrasing. It is impossible to respond.
@we_deny_everything - Just listen to the news.
@Kellsbella - I wonder the same thing.
@Kris0logy - News overseas wants to impeach Obama – Interesting.
@Randy7777 - FAIL.
@we_deny_everything - LOL
@Randy7777 - You are the SAME exact person as the muslims you are seeing. When you look at them…you are looking into a mirror.
They are ultra conservative, you are ultra conservative. They are uber religious, you are uber religious. They are irrational and simply hate…they are irrational and simply hate.
You said above “I think they are being true to their religion. The Koran teaches death to all infidels.”
Your Bible says the exact same stupid shit (check leviticus) and Christian fanatics here pull the same stupid shit…i.e. kill abortion docs, protest soldiers funerals etc…
You are both ignorant…..I am sure you will be saying…those are just fanatics and not true Xtians who do that. 1.2 billion Muslims in the world homey. You sell hate and bullshit….just like they are selling and bullshit. If what you are saying is true, the whole world would be on fire…(kill the infidel).
A few jackasses were whipped up into a frenzy by their conservative (Mullahs) leaders to riot…Limbaugh Mitt Rmoney etc are pulling the exact same shit with you.
They are you homey. You are looking into a mirror. If you are disgusted by their behavior, you should realize you are doing the exact same shit.
@Randy7777 - Except he said nothing of the sort.
@hesacontradiction - The whole point of free speech is that it’s allowed to be awful, hateful, cruel, bigoted, stupid… it’s still protected. As long as it isn’t a direct threat of violence, you are allowed to say it. PERIOD.
@pnrj - yea… got to love those fundamentalists. (on both sides)
@SerenaDante - he said it many times. I wouldn’t of believed it unless I heard it
@Randy7777 - the news stations in my area have presented clips of Muslims condoning those that are doing the violence. unfortunately nice news isnt as good to show and the bad news
the person that made the video knew it was wrong and would cause a problem (even though now he says differently) or why would he make it under false pretenses? why would he hide? if he truly believes what he made is true and worth while, why not stand up for it?
@buddy71 - Agreed –